Curse

Emik · Dec 06, 2006, 07:48 AM // 07:48

/notsigned if you mean server...
I'm not going to huddle to Int just to be able to play with my own guildmates (Yes they're mostly Australian)

/signed if you mean districts
This doesn't require changing to int districts sinc it's stillunder the home ones.

Technicolour · Dec 06, 2006, 08:00 AM // 08:00

I dont see the point honestly i play the same times as austrailians as im from new zealand and the only time i can really get a decent pug or anything for a mission etc i have to wait till the morning when the europeans are on.. there simply isnt enough australians/newzealanders to do it

Angelica · Dec 06, 2006, 08:13 AM // 08:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jodie O

@ Angelica - How do you know it's not 600 people on at 7pm? Silly me.

So are we just talking about an Australian server or how about some of these countries, I'm sure they would like a country based server too.
South Africa, New Zealand, Indonesia, Vietnam, England, Canada, Russia, Brazil, Thailand, Germany, France, Spain, Greece, Sweden, Belgium, Netherlands, Italy, India. etc etc
You get my point.

Why do you think it's FAIR that Australia gets a server before any of the above mentioned countries do. What makes us so special? I'm being deadly serious, anet might be reading this.

As for "tinking" about myself, its a petition. Everyone has the right to have a say, just because my view isn't shared by you, it doesn't mean that I can't say that I think a small population base of players aka Australians, is a bad basis for a new server and just because you say it's unfair.

K now it's your turn, rant at me

Go you good thing!

I still like you!

stiffler · Dec 06, 2006, 02:05 PM // 14:05

Wow, from what I have read so far is that Australians are spread out all over the place, how messy. Perhaps the damage has been done and trying to fix it may not rectify it at all. Such a shame really, I am a proud Australian, I love my country, and to think we are classed as a minority is quite insulting to me. To those that have said there are not enough Aussies playing, that is complete and utter RUBBISH!! There are more of us playing GW then Italy and Spain, (France is a bit of an if, I have seen a few in there districts). The demand for Nightfall over here was extremely high at EB stores. I have met a lot of Aussies in game without trying to hard, but most of the time when we call in towns we have to say "Australia" due to the messy mix of country's playing in the same districts. Now I wont pretend to understand what happens in US servers for Aussies, because I have never been there before, but in the Europe servers there are heaps of us there, but finding us is a different story.

What I am asking for is not much really, just a little district I can call home. When there are major events taking place in game English districts get as high as 40+. That’s 40 odd districts just for England to play around with and yet we can't have a single one

. Now I could go on and on about why Anet should have given us our own server for the Australasian region, but frankly I don't blame them for not expecting GW to be so popular over here.

I might continue to do some research into the matter. From what I have seen there is a large amount of Australians in the Euro server, and there may be an equally or even higher amount in the US server which basically equates to this "Lots of Aussies, lost between here and there”. I shall endeavor to find out just how many there are of us playing.

For now, please continue to post you thoughts on the matter. I have enjoyed hearing the opinions from a lot of you, and I have learnt a lot on the way, perhaps I might change to the American server for a while to see what it's like over there, it may prove productive in my research. Thank you all.

Stiffler (IGN: Glichy Mc Glich)

Emik · Dec 06, 2006, 02:56 PM // 14:56

Again you seem to misinterpret the district functions.
Yo say England has 40+ districts on events.
Not true.
Those districts are for everyone speaking english.
I'm belgian and theres a lot of dutch, swedish and other scandinavians and polish people and even more but i could go on for ever so i'll keep it at this.
Do we get a seperate district?
No we don't.

Yawgmoth · Dec 06, 2006, 04:41 PM // 16:41

/not signed

Another separate English speaking districts on European server? Nonsense.
Without a decent cross-district party creation system it will make creating parties and trading even more difficult and requiring more district jumping.

I often play at some extreme hours and meet many Aussie players, without them districts would be soo very empty.

Also, addition of extra districts per each outpost requires some additional server processing power, just as more district-jumping players do, and I'm sure Anet doesnt want that without a really good reason.

Sophitia Leafblade · Dec 06, 2006, 04:51 PM // 16:51

I imagine it would be nice for them to have there own district, but i do find they bolster the english districts during periods when the numbers are low which helps both groups (late night Europeans and Australians/Nz'ers, but if enough people want it i say go for it.

Morgenstern · Dec 06, 2006, 07:27 PM // 19:27

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yawgmoth

Another separate English speaking districts on European server?

Lol we don't speak english, eh mate eh. It'd be sweet as if those beauties at ANet made a pearler of a district. We could come back from the sheep shearin', grab ourselves a cold fosters, sit on our deck chairs nd play some GW with our fellow rugby players at comfortable times.

My idea, i agree, i got to go "this kiwi's gota fly". Haha Paradox!

phfor · Dec 07, 2006, 12:56 AM // 00:56

/signed

It'd let us escape all that unintelligable babble which usually inhabits American District 1 of various places (yeah, I play on the Am server - more people on when I play - closer to home, compared to Euro servers which are on the other side of the planet...). Should be called the Australiasian district though

Although, as long as we (the kiwi's and aussie's) get our own district, it'd be great. Might even start seeing Aus/NZ HA pugs taking halls, rather than just Law, TTA, and the like.

Chris On Drugs · Dec 07, 2006, 01:48 AM // 01:48

/signed

A Aussie district would be good for organizing events(HA pugs etc etc) but cant see many people actually using it for anything besides that.

Julius K Foxglove · Dec 07, 2006, 02:20 AM // 02:20

Just to reiterate on what I've already posted, as this discussion seems to be polarized by the differences between pve and pvp sensibilities.

Districts don't really mean shit for pvp. GvG exists outside of districts and if you're serious about pugging in Ha you should be in id1. As for pve I don't see much point either tbh, I'm surprised people even still pug for pve now that heros are available (while their not the leetest players they don't drop, aggro random shit or bring mending unless you tell them to). If you were in an Aussie guild or alliance then you would have no trouble finding Aussie to play with.

For starters an Australian district on the euro servers is pointless in that it fails to deal with the greater issue of Australian players being spread across two servers (Am & Euro). The sollution to this problem is to make an Oceania Server to cater for South East Asian and Pacific countries.

If you want to play with Australians then join an Australian guild, someone has already posted a link to ANZGW where links to most of the Aussie guilds forums can be found. TTA and MM are both large social guilds with pve and pvp agendas and there are quite a few pvp orientated Aussie guilds also; AuS, WtF, Law, Di and Trex. There are also an assortment of Australian alliances.

So the reality of the situation is that there is no shortage of Aussie players, nor Aussie pugs. Pugs from Oceanic regions already take HoH on a regular basis, you can tell usually if it is an Aussie guild, but if it's just a pug it can be hard to tell that it's Aussies because it comes up as either Am or Euro.

So if you want to play with Aussies, join an Aussie guild and stop wasting Anet's time with this dribble. If you want more Aussie pugs, better pings and a sense of identity within the guild wars community, then you should be pushing for an Oceanic server/region instead.

draxynnic · Dec 07, 2006, 02:42 AM // 02:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Christie

Australian*

The term Australasian was deliberate. It covers the Kiwis as well.

Makes me think of a comment I heard at one point about the Aus/Kiwi/American/Canadian relations - the gist is that Aussies and Kiwis taking the piss out of each other is just practise for when you put them both in the same room as a Yank, while any Canucks get to sit back and laugh at the fireworks.

tomscaria · Dec 07, 2006, 04:07 AM // 04:07

y not(even though im not an aussie)
they deserve one too

/signed

soelle288 · Dec 07, 2006, 12:29 PM // 12:29

/signed cos ....Australia ftw

stiffler · Dec 07, 2006, 02:31 PM // 14:31

Quote:

Originally Posted by Emik

Again you seem to misinterpret the district functions.
Yo say England has 40+ districts on events.
Not true.
Those districts are for everyone speaking english.
I'm belgian and theres a lot of dutch, swedish and other scandinavians and polish people and even more but i could go on for ever so i'll keep it at this.
Do we get a seperate district?
No we don't.

Yes I know how it works, even the Germans sometimes get up to 40+ districts. I was trying to make a point about player numbers at times, sorry I probably wasn't very clear (working 13 hour straight shifts can screw with your mind a bit

). My main reason for the Aust Dist was more about time differences than anything else, yes I am well aware of if being a bit odd having two english speaking dists. Anyway, I'm dropping the matter for now, work is to busy atm, so I dont have the time and energy to deal with it. Maybe in the new year.

Drazilus · Dec 07, 2006, 03:12 PM // 15:12

/signed

I dont live in Australia but aussies should get their own district.

Why?
Australia is not part of Europe and still people from there must play in the EU servers. They attleast should have own district.

And for those who say there is not enough players from Australia... Go and look how many people are playing at the Italy and Spain districts. I rarely see even 5 players at dist 1. Why they have own districts and Australia dont, EVEN when it is not part of Europe?

Xeeron · Dec 07, 2006, 03:28 PM // 15:28

/Idontcare

So Australians want to split the already thinned out player base (3 campaigns, did you check any of the uncommon prophecies outposts lately?) even thinner, so they can indulge their proud "australian" feelings by having their own district. Go ahead, as a German happily playing in an international guild on the american servers I couldn't care less =P

- Xeeron

PS: Australia is a great country, been there for half a year, but that doesnt make the idea any better.

Kool Pajamas · Dec 07, 2006, 07:01 PM // 19:01

I say we just put everyone on the same server and put separate districts for each country

but really I dont see the point....districts are to separate languages not regions.

aussieman · Dec 08, 2006, 03:17 AM // 03:17

/not signed (district)

/signed (server)

agree with julius get us better pings in pvp, us aussies are everywhere look behind u u will see us we are the ones that probably just flogged you in ha or gvg with the ping handicap.

look out when we get our own server and the playing field is even

phfor · Dec 08, 2006, 11:52 AM // 11:52

Quote:

Originally Posted by Julius K Foxglove

Just to reiterate on what I've already posted, as this discussion seems to be polarized by the differences between pve and pvp sensibilities.

Districts don't really mean shit for pvp. GvG exists outside of districts and if you're serious about pugging in Ha you should be in id1. As for pve I don't see much point either tbh, I'm surprised people even still pug for pve now that heros are available (while their not the leetest players they don't drop, aggro random shit or bring mending unless you tell them to). If you were in an Aussie guild or alliance then you would have no trouble finding Aussie to play with.

For starters an Australian district on the euro servers is pointless in that it fails to deal with the greater issue of Australian players being spread across two servers (Am & Euro). The sollution to this problem is to make an Oceania Server to cater for South East Asian and Pacific countries.

If you want to play with Australians then join an Australian guild, someone has already posted a link to ANZGW where links to most of the Aussie guilds forums can be found. TTA and MM are both large social guilds with pve and pvp agendas and there are quite a few pvp orientated Aussie guilds also; AuS, WtF, Law, Di and Trex. There are also an assortment of Australian alliances.

So the reality of the situation is that there is no shortage of Aussie players, nor Aussie pugs. Pugs from Oceanic regions already take HoH on a regular basis, you can tell usually if it is an Aussie guild, but if it's just a pug it can be hard to tell that it's Aussies because it comes up as either Am or Euro.

So if you want to play with Aussies, join an Aussie guild and stop wasting Anet's time with this dribble. If you want more Aussie pugs, better pings and a sense of identity within the guild wars community, then you should be pushing for an Oceanic server/region instead.

I am in an Aus/NZ guild (TTA to be exact), however, I *still* enjoy meeting randoms aussies and kiwi's while henching or pugging around PvE (even after 18months at this game). Many great times have happened from such occurences - dare I say, Random aus/nz pugs ftw ?

HOWEVER, there isn't quite enough of us to warrant our own server. Chances are we'd never see favour.. and not to mention it'd be rather empty in a few places at times. Which is why it'd be better to have it as a/multiple districts on either the European or American (either/or, I'm not too picky) servers. If it gets quiet in the aus/nz districts you could always pop over to another district (depending on which servers it's is based on).

And as to the sense of identity idea you have brought up, I already get the feeling of being really chuffed with being part of the Australian and New Zealand Guild Wars community when I see either Ex Talionis or Trans Tasman Alliance taking/holding the Hall of Heroes. Go the down-under teams taking HoH!

Having the Aust. Districts on the European *does* make sense too. All new Aus/NZ GW accounts are now stuck on the European servers by default. The Aussie representative guy (sorry to him, can't remember the name for the life of me

) happens to work in ANet Euro... which is why it'd be on said European servers.
I highly doubt there will ever be an Oceania server of Aus, NZ, Pacific, and SE Asian countries. Why? Languages in said SE Asian countries are too different to English for it too work. Character sets may/may not agree... Not to mention the effort required to set up and maintain the servers ... not the most friendly job in the world, server support...
And I have yet to experience issues with latency, despite not being connected to an aussie server. In fact, the only time I have any (even slight) problems is when my own internet connection decides to spit the dummy. I have no problems with interrupting skills (even ones with low-ish cast times).

About your pve comments: I still pug pve a bit - I do meet a few nice people on my travels, AND I can help the new people out, who sometimes have no clue what to do (for some, GW is their first online game, and/or first RPG-style game). Yes, there ARE nice people on the American servers.. not all of them spout all of that mind-rot that seems to flood Random Arenas AD1, and sometimes 2.

And this discussion (what you have termed 'dribble') can be the breeding grounds for brilliant ideas that can occasionally pop up, and ANet may implement.

Oh, and another reason we need the districts... we need somewhere to discuss the rugby, league and cricket.